Comments on: Mac vs. Ubuntu: The Winner is… http://amfreenet.com/2009/07/mac-vs-ubuntu-the-winner-is/ Real Americans - Common Sense for Freedom Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:10:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Restless Knight http://amfreenet.com/2009/07/mac-vs-ubuntu-the-winner-is/comment-page-1/#comment-1301 Restless Knight Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:07:06 +0000 http://amfreenet.com/?p=1697#comment-1301 I think we are all aware that even Mac's componants are made in Asia, I was referring to how their OS designed to only function on Mac hardware (though you can hack it to work in most any Wintel hardware). Point of correction on the Google OS - Android is the Mobile platform, and the new Netbook is currently being referred to on the Offical Google Blog as Chrome OS. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html I think we are all aware that even Mac’s componants are made in Asia, I was referring to how their OS designed to only function on Mac hardware (though you can hack it to work in most any Wintel hardware).

Point of correction on the Google OS – Android is the Mobile platform, and the new Netbook is currently being referred to on the Offical Google Blog as Chrome OS.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html

]]> By: ssgconway http://amfreenet.com/2009/07/mac-vs-ubuntu-the-winner-is/comment-page-1/#comment-1279 ssgconway Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:29:10 +0000 http://amfreenet.com/?p=1697#comment-1279 Kim, I chose a "Pismo" as my Dell/Ubuntu replacement, which means 9 y/o PPC hardware actually built by Apple. Now that they use Intel and have them built in China, it's more of a (no pun intended) apples-to-apples comparison. Apple does design better machines, and I believe that they demand better quality from their vendors, too. Over the course of the next few years, we'll find out if that's true, as the first Intel Macs age. -ssgconway Kim,
I chose a “Pismo” as my Dell/Ubuntu replacement, which means 9 y/o PPC hardware actually built by Apple. Now that they use Intel and have them built in China, it’s more of a (no pun intended) apples-to-apples comparison. Apple does design better machines, and I believe that they demand better quality from their vendors, too. Over the course of the next few years, we’ll find out if that’s true, as the first Intel Macs age.
-ssgconway

]]> By: ssgconway http://amfreenet.com/2009/07/mac-vs-ubuntu-the-winner-is/comment-page-1/#comment-1278 ssgconway Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:25:47 +0000 http://amfreenet.com/?p=1697#comment-1278 OS choice is a matter of personal opinion and preference. As for market domination, Win outsells Mac, true. Mac(donalds) outsells all the world's steakhouses, combined. I switched from Mac to Dell/Ubuntu, then back, and use Win at work, so I can speak from experience about all three platforms. Macs are more reliable and easier to use. as for elitism, if it's justified, so be it. Win is for those who are happy with mediocre systems, and are driven by price, not quality. (The gamers like it, too.) I use mine for productivity - grading student papers and other teacher stuff. Price is relative, too. If you don't keep your computer until it's junk, then you sell it. If you have a Mac, it will hold its' value better than a PC. (PCs encompass many brands, from IBM at the high end to the throw-away ones at the low end, but the resale comparison holds true with all of them.) Initial price vs. resale residual value gives Mac the advantage. (As GM discovered, resale price is a factor in consumer purchase decisions.) And in closing, as I noted in my article, I chose a G3 "Pismo." I also have Macs, such as my PowerMac G4, which were, "Built by Apple in California," unlike the newer machines. That said, I'll take a Chinese sweatshop ppc/intel Mac over a Chinese sweatshop PC, quality-wise, any day. Specs count for something, and Apple has to appease us elitist snobs with something that has a longer shelf-life than a Whopper. OS choice is a matter of personal opinion and preference. As for market domination, Win outsells Mac, true. Mac(donalds) outsells all the world’s steakhouses, combined. I switched from Mac to Dell/Ubuntu, then back, and use Win at work, so I can speak from experience about all three platforms. Macs are more reliable and easier to use. as for elitism, if it’s justified, so be it. Win is for those who are happy with mediocre systems, and are driven by price, not quality. (The gamers like it, too.) I use mine for productivity – grading student papers and other teacher stuff.
Price is relative, too. If you don’t keep your computer until it’s junk, then you sell it. If you have a Mac, it will hold its’ value better than a PC. (PCs encompass many brands, from IBM at the high end to the throw-away ones at the low end, but the resale comparison holds true with all of them.) Initial price vs. resale residual value gives Mac the advantage. (As GM discovered, resale price is a factor in consumer purchase decisions.)
And in closing, as I noted in my article, I chose a G3 “Pismo.” I also have Macs, such as my PowerMac G4, which were, “Built by Apple in California,” unlike the newer machines. That said, I’ll take a Chinese sweatshop ppc/intel Mac over a Chinese sweatshop PC, quality-wise, any day. Specs count for something, and Apple has to appease us elitist snobs with something that has a longer shelf-life than a Whopper.

]]> By: CPT http://amfreenet.com/2009/07/mac-vs-ubuntu-the-winner-is/comment-page-1/#comment-1275 CPT Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:18:53 +0000 http://amfreenet.com/?p=1697#comment-1275 Apple makes computer hardware? Not. Subs make apple hardware as they make all other electronics. Try your Chinese (components) IPhone, I love mine. Chrome is a browser, "Android" is the working name fed the media for the new Google OS. Macs are BSD (linux-like) boxes. I've used PCs and Macs for years. More power to those who love Macs, I don't see it. Its like liking a Jag (pre-Ford) over a Chevy (pre-Obama). Nothing but a posturing things. There is a REASON (that Macsters hate) that PCs dominate the market. Price. Another reason, productivity. Businesses, mostly, don't posture. They try to make money. They'll never challenge microslop or the Wintel platform until they understand that pricing is EVERYTHING in the marketplace for computers. UBUNTU rocks as a network box to serve your media, pictures, printing and other services. Its ok as a workstation too. Buy what you like. I like what I need at the best price. My Vista laptop, Powerbook, 2 Ubuntu and 2 XP boxes do me fine. Nearly all the WORK gets done on the Winblows box though. Mac for Elitist geeks Ubuntu/Linux for long haired pasty geeks Windows for normal people (because they don't have time or interest to geek) Apple makes computer hardware? Not. Subs make apple hardware as they make all other electronics. Try your Chinese (components) IPhone, I love mine.

Chrome is a browser, “Android” is the working name fed the media for the new Google OS.

Macs are BSD (linux-like) boxes. I’ve used PCs and Macs for years. More power to those who love Macs, I don’t see it. Its like liking a Jag (pre-Ford) over a Chevy (pre-Obama). Nothing but a posturing things.

There is a REASON (that Macsters hate) that PCs dominate the market. Price. Another reason, productivity. Businesses, mostly, don’t posture. They try to make money.

They’ll never challenge microslop or the Wintel platform until they understand that pricing is EVERYTHING in the marketplace for computers.

UBUNTU rocks as a network box to serve your media, pictures, printing and other services. Its ok as a workstation too. Buy what you like. I like what I need at the best price. My Vista laptop, Powerbook, 2 Ubuntu and 2 XP boxes do me fine. Nearly all the WORK gets done on the Winblows box though.

Mac for Elitist geeks
Ubuntu/Linux for long haired pasty geeks
Windows for normal people (because they don’t have time or interest to geek)

]]> By: Restless Knight http://amfreenet.com/2009/07/mac-vs-ubuntu-the-winner-is/comment-page-1/#comment-1274 Restless Knight Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:38:55 +0000 http://amfreenet.com/?p=1697#comment-1274 Now that Mac is using Unix at it's core, and the decision to move onto the Intel chipset, they are in a position to really challance Microsoft. They just have to remove the "Mac Only" hardware restrictions to begin to gobble up marketshare. It will be interesting to see how Google's Chrome OS will fair when it arrives on the netbooks.... Now that Mac is using Unix at it’s core, and the decision to move onto the Intel chipset, they are in a position to really challance Microsoft. They just have to remove the “Mac Only” hardware restrictions to begin to gobble up marketshare.

It will be interesting to see how Google’s Chrome OS will fair when it arrives on the netbooks….

]]> By: KimTjik http://amfreenet.com/2009/07/mac-vs-ubuntu-the-winner-is/comment-page-1/#comment-1273 KimTjik Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:19:53 +0000 http://amfreenet.com/?p=1697#comment-1273 "On the other hand, Mac’s OS had advantages of its’ own, not the least of which is that it runs natively on Mac hardware, and apple makes the best computer hardware on Earth." Out of curiosity: what hardware are you referring to? Generally Apple has become as much PC as the rest, only difference is that it's not designed to work well on a broad selection of hardware. Or you're more talking about the design and technical solutions around the standard hardware? “On the other hand, Mac’s OS had advantages of its’ own, not the least of which is that it runs natively on Mac hardware, and apple makes the best computer hardware on Earth.”

Out of curiosity: what hardware are you referring to? Generally Apple has become as much PC as the rest, only difference is that it’s not designed to work well on a broad selection of hardware. Or you’re more talking about the design and technical solutions around the standard hardware?

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